Monday, January 30, 2012

How would you as an evolutionist explain the massive amount of Information required to produce a Human?

Where did the information come from? Do things naturally get more complex?How would you as an evolutionist explain the massive amount of Information required to produce a Human?The short answer to your question is that the information comes from the environment. And yes.... some things do become naturally more complex over time, and living systems are an example.



The theory of evolution says that random variations generated in the genome of an organism are operated on by natural selection... that is, the variations that do the best job of promoting survival in a particular environment are passed on to offspring. In this way, the environment is "communicating" information to the genome of the organism. It is "telling" the organism, "Yes, this trait is favorable if you want to survive in my type environment."



As humans, we are the product of billions of years worth of this process operating on our genome. The information in our DNA came from our environment, and all the past environments that gave rise to us. So you see, there does not need to be a designer or sentient programmer in order for complex organisms to come about. The programmer is the environment.How would you as an evolutionist explain the massive amount of Information required to produce a Human?
My mind isn't too narrow for me to fear the shear immensity of the coincidence. Over a long period of time, a nice bunch of coincidences make wonderful things happen, and favors the best suited one over the not-so-well suited ones.



It's not beyond my ability to imagine.How would you as an evolutionist explain the massive amount of Information required to produce a Human?Well, look at it like this, before humans, evolution had been working on life for three billion years. That's a very long time and many, many experiments can be conducted within that time frame. Human beings are just one type of end product of billions of years of evolutionary experimentation.



Now, do things naturaly get more complex. That is a very, very good question and, as it turns out, yes they can and do through a number of different pathways. Here's one: The laws of physics, especially quantum physics, allows for this accumulation of complexity from simple origins. Take the origin of the universe for example, it started out in a very tiny, high-energy, low entropy state expanded from a unified beginnings and than proceeded to evolve over time with phase-transitions into a complex universe that we know today. Now, if quantum physics allows for the universe to emerge from a simple beginning and grow in complexity, why not allow the same trend or pattern to occur in other things "within" that universe. Take for example, the way that life unfolds: it starts out as a tiny high-energy low entropy state (just like the universe did) of fertilization, expands and grows in size and complexity from a simple single cell to a complex multicellular organism all without adding or substracting much information, (again, just like the universe). Let's consider the origin of life and its evolution. Life began in some unclear fashion that started with a simple protocell and grew in complexity over time. Evolution worked on that life through natural selection to lead from simple life forms to more complex ones. Do you begin to see a pattern there?

What was the origin of evolution and system change as a function of that evolution? Once again, look to the natural source, the beginning of the universe. In particle physics (which describe how subatomic particles behaved during the time of the origin of the universe), there's something called virtual particles. These are subatomic particles that just randomly drop out of the vacuum of space (actually matter and antimatter) and in short order, annihilate one another releasing pure energy and other subatomic particle types. It is this pure energy that can alter the course of a normal stable atom causing it to behave in ways that may not be totally predictable. The point is, subatomic particles are routinely changing form, releasing energy, and other types of particles and then falling back into the vacuum, especially in radioactive materials. Now, what if there was some way to scale that action up to a larger level, our 3-D realm for example. Can you see that maybe, just maybe everything that we think we understand about our world and universe has its fundamental roots within the framework of the quantum world of particle physics? I believe that it does. If a person understand enough about how the subatomic world really works, they can see that our larger 3-D world follows the very same kinds of patterns.



As for the question of moving from simple to complex, in biology there are things call gene amplification where a specific gene may, during translation, get repeated (2 genes where there was just 1 before) and this can have a profound effect on the biochemistry of the organism in question. Then there are viruses that infect origanisms and bring new strands of DNA into that organism's own genome. So, that is another aveune for biology to move from simple to more complex.





If you want the answer to how our realm really works, study cosmology, quantum mechanics, particle physics, mathematics, biology, and classical physics. It is all there for people who can recognize the patterns and make the right connections.How would you as an evolutionist explain the massive amount of Information required to produce a Human?
Life naturally becomes more complex if it provides a survival advantage. In our case, manipulation of tools, which required a specialised brain to operate muscles, gave a higher benefit than, say, gorilla-like arms or huge teeth.



Besides, other primates are just as complex as humans, they are simply differently complex.How would you as an evolutionist explain the massive amount of Information required to produce a Human?An evolutionist would'nt say a human could be produced. he would say humans evolved from some lower life form.

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